KingJavo

Been a LONG time... I know.  I'm back at this again.  Wondering if any NEW tools have been released to help identify some of this stuff?  I believe I tried all of the tools mentioned last year and not succeeded.

I'm a programmer and can probably build the tools needed to get this going, but any help would be awesome.   Thanks again guys!

Thanks for the help.  How would recommend figuring out the default.xex file to learn how those "zip" files are being used?

I'm back at this again.  None of the programs mentioned in this thread worked.  Where I think it would be better to start would be to see if I could identify what the "meshes" look like in those HEX files.

Meaning, is there a typical HEX sequence of Bytes for "mesh" objects?  From my research, I know there are mod tools for games like Skyrim where you can edit meshes and package them back into the game's iso.

I wonder if this could be possible for this game.  PLEASE HELP!  This site seems to be my only hope.  I'm willing to do whatever it takes to figure this out and I have an extensive background in programming, modding game, and technology overall which may help.

Lefluffie/velocity open x360 packages, and can even create them.. just dont know if those will be able to open the specific ones you are trying

I've tried those apps and no dice. There has to be someone that can help figure this out. Would a 360 dev kit be of any help? I'm desperately searching for a way to make this happen.

Please help!!!

ok, you were already told, that they are "meshes" and NOT images.. have you tried to open those files with lefluffie or similar? they might just be like a TU/DLC package.. dunno..

I'm not familiar with those programs. I'll check out lefluffie and see what that's about. Thx.

Well, give it a try, there are tools for finding signatures in files, if you can find some expected signatures, you can look for offset markers pointing to that data, that's a good starting point...

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Man, I would die to have this figured out somehow and like I mentioned earlier. I would pay someone to help me figure this out.

You mentioned looking for those signature pointer offsets. Can you point me to info on what this may look like, preferably for an image file? I just need a little help to get started. If you or anyone you know could help I'm sure together we can get this going and I would pay for your help.

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1. i will re-iterate this again, each package/game is done by a different developer.. they only know their "packing" techniques.. 

2. GFX are handled the same way.. they "could" be in a standard format.. or they "could" be custom done, and have the default.xex decode everything..

3. there is no "general" tool to let you edit gfx files

4. here is an example: skyrim - Bethesda made a creation kit for the game, which handles all the textures/scripts/everything.. so when a mod is done, people use the creation kit.. not stuff like photoshop..

So are you saying there's no realistic way to figure this out?

I don't have that game, most games have a ton of smaller chunks, they're in those files, they're clusters of data packed in some way, i can't tell you if they're somehow compressed or not, but most likely they're not compressed tho... the chunks might be, but the whole package likely isn't

Well, I'll see what I can uncover.  Let me know if you or anyone else would be interested in spot checking those files.  Any help would be appreciated!

You're seriously asking us to tell you what this developer chose to do with their packaging without telling us what game you're working with... or anything?!

The general method to figure out a fileformat is to look for signatures, for instance images tend to have a header that tells whatever is loading it what size it is etc. etc, you can also find other similar things for other things such as sounds, videos and graphical data... there's no guarantee's you'll find them tho... but that's the general starting point... other starting points is to look for known data, something you know is there and what it should look like to determine a size of a block of data within and perhaps look for a value indicating a size followed by looking for like a table of data...

We're NOT going to tell you exactly how all of this shit is done, we might give you some hints of things to try/look for, but... you're largely on your own i'm afraid...

LOL, yeah I'm sorry if I sounded like you would just hand over a blueprint or something.  I'm quite experienced with HEX editing gamesaves and have a built a handful of editors to work with those files.

The game is All-Pro Football 2K8 for the xb360.  My work can be found on my site and I have several YouTube vids showcasing my APF2K8 editor.  

I'd be willing to pay someone to help me figure this out if it's possible and if you're interested, by the way.  So do you think I can search the files I posted in my original comment or do I need to somehow "unzip/decode" those values before seeing the true binary (hex) values?

Highly unlikely, like felida said it's different for each game... nobody really knows beforehand what format they've used, they could use a standard tool to create the packages, or they used one they made themselves with no names, just indexes or whatever... you'll have to open the files in a hexeditor and try to determine what type of structure they have within and then try to make a tool that extracts the contents of it

So I would have to play around with the hex values and see what changes in the game?  If so, would the changes to the file possibly break my system?  Also, what about rehashing the files once the values change?  Do I need to consider that part or just make the changes with no regard to file changes?

Thanks a ton for the help guys! I really want to see what can be done.

1. the files named 0a, 0b, 1a, 1b are what the game is.. they are "loosely" equivalent to .zip files.. and contain the data within them.. reason they dont have a file extension, is because windows doesn't see them as having a file extension.. matter of fact, ALOT of files on the xb360 don't have a file extension(TU's, DLC, w.e..)

 

2. the process of changing graphics in ANY game, NES to xb360, is not an easy task.. as you have to reverse the games, and every game is different per developer.. and even more you have to code a windows/mac/linux program to interpret the data into a workable format also..

Thanks for the reply and information.

Okay, so if I wanted to "unzip" the files... is there a tool I can use to do such a thing?  I'm a developer and don't have an issue coding a program depending on how complex the functionality.

I'd love to know how I can proceed with what you've advised.